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Post by ICE on Jul 27, 2004 3:04:32 GMT -5
And Just why is it that of all the sports wrestlers seem SO fragile??? Case in point.. mild thing a little knee injury and he is gone done history yesterday's bad old news?? Stevie Yzerman had one worse and he is back playing his sport and he is way older then milds.. yes no that you are wrestling boss you are mild thing... So WHY are these guys so fragile??? ;D ;D
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Post by Rob Wilds on Jul 27, 2004 3:23:10 GMT -5
Could it be that Stevie Yzerman has a high dollar contract and really good medical insurance? There has to come a time when you take so many injuries and say enough is enough. Ric Flair suffered a broken back in a plane crash, Edge, lita, Angle and Bennot have all rehabbed from broken necks, Botista and HHH have had tnedon dammage in theyre knees and thighs and Kevin Nash had the same knee replacment I had 12 times. Why are they so differant? Its because of the whopping dollar income thay had and the best doc's in the world. I was an Indy wrestler. I did not have any of those things. So after a pile of medical bills I decided that its just not worth spending my life in a brace or a chair.
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Post by ICE on Jul 27, 2004 9:35:21 GMT -5
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Post by Professor Pimpstatus on Jul 27, 2004 11:03:08 GMT -5
actually Rob don't you go back in for your knees Today?
I hope all goes well man.
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Post by studio42 on Jul 27, 2004 12:17:07 GMT -5
Well, also people have to remember that unlike cars, people are unique. Each individual has their own set of "made to order" parts. As there is lack of uniformity and standards, it is just part of the human condition.
Now, Rob provided some great examples with sufficient enough details adn stuff I've heard from pro athletes as well. And yes, I do consider pro wrestlers to be pro athletes in addition to entertainers. But Rob did leave out a few things that perhaps people are not taking into consideration, which I will get to in just a bit.
Injuries can range from trivial to traumatic, or can appear trivial and be traumatic or appear traumatic and be trivial. Pain tolerances and thresholds definately are a factor. But, even if two guys have the same injury, well, each person is built differently with different tolerances, so what might be a repairable injury for one might not be so repairable for the other. Injuries such as back and neck injuries of course are very serious due to the fact that the vertebrae in addition to supporting the entire weight of the body, also must protect the spinal chord, which carries all nervous signals back to the brain. The further UP the injury, the more urgent the injury. You don't want to cut off those electrical connections to the heart and diaphragm or else you stop pumping and breathing. Just to clarify: those would be bad things. Further down the neck and spine, you risk permanent or temporary paralysis, which also sucks big time. The knee is a joint that suffers by far the most abuse. When running or jogging, over a ton of pressure pounds at that joint. Look at wrestling, there are locks and moves specifically for the knees which are intended to imobilize but at the same time preferably not to break it. Like anything else, only so much abuse can be taken before things reach critical and the unthinkable happens. So, just because two men had the same injury, it doesn't make it an identical injury, and even an identical injury doesn't mean "identical fixes".
Let's look at what some of the wrestlers are doing. I'm seeing guys take piledrivers and body slams onto concrete and cars, through tables. Heck, that ring has only so much cushion and the whole platform is in itself a minor trampoline and can only give so much. Guys running into steel poles, hitting each other with bats and steel chairs. Don't even get me into hardcore matches where anything goes. I mean, how much can you "fake" doing a slam on someone onto concrete? Yes, the training helps prevent a great deal of injury, but it's concrete and there is no give. We all know all the action doesn't happen in the ring.
Now back to what Rob said. At some point, even with all the high contracts and best doctors in the world, an athelete has to always weigh this question: "is it worth it?" It doesn't mean they don't love what they do with passion for it burning in their heart, it just means they have to think long term. Do they really want to be for lack of a better term, crippled for life?
I'm no athlete. I played soccer for 10 years, I think, as a kid. My knees are shot to hell. Why? No padding in them boots. My advise to kids: get Dr. Scholl's to stuff in there, you'll never realize you'll need to thank me later, and that's just fine with me. I injured my upper back playing soccer and my lower back in a car accident, but doctors can't find anything wrong because apparently it's all "muscular" so nothing shows up on X-Ray.
Money can' t buy or fix everything. Two multi-million dollar wrestlers or other athletes can have identical injuries. One might recover and be suitable to return to play. For the other, it could be a carreer ending injury even assuming the best doctors in the world. With wrestlers, their body is their money maker. It is because of that fact that training and conditioning is so important to help reduce injury. Still, no amount of training and conditioning in the world is going to prevent injuries. Accidents happen, sometimes mistakes are made. Sometimes everything went perfect but it was just the time for something to say enough is enough and break.
I don't know the wrestling industry that well, but I do know other sports better, even though I'm not a sports fan. Doctors will typically advise if the injury is recoverable or not, and even then, it is only after surgury and therapy that a real decision can be made. I find it incredible to see guys getting broken necks and backs, or some of the knee, ligament and tendon injuries and come back in top physical condition. Part of that is a testament to how well they have been taking care of their bodies.
Wrestlers aren't fragile, but hey, when your knee goes sideways instead of the correct way, well, I think the word "ouch" is a drastic understatement.
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Post by Rob Wilds on Jul 27, 2004 23:04:27 GMT -5
Only fruit you need worry yourself with Ice is Chris Ward.
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Post by noahdonish on Jul 28, 2004 2:07:34 GMT -5
hmmm *pictures the scene in the movie "Misery" when she whacks him over the kneecaps with a sledgehammer.....does that make you cringe rob? Does it? does it? does it? ;D
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Post by Rob Wilds on Jul 28, 2004 4:18:20 GMT -5
Ske breaks his ankles..not knees.
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Post by noahdonish on Jul 28, 2004 14:06:06 GMT -5
Close enough bootyface
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