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Post by studio42 on Jul 6, 2004 23:12:58 GMT -5
There's always someone looking to stir up trouble. On my anti-spam web board, there is always some clueless idiot trying to stir things up.
On news.admin.net-abuse.email, there's this guy who can't figure out that a blacklist that is blocking less than 1% of available IP addresses and that to use it is a voluntary action, can't get it through his thick skull how things work.
Wrong topic, but if you've heard of SPEWS, it takes a well documented and extended effort of negligence and stidity shown over a LONG period of time to get onto the blacklist.
With my web board, I remove "offending" posts by idiots, or else rip them a new one and show them their stupidity. They tend to walk away with their tail between their legs. I've enraged some so much they organized a pathetic attack against the web board and my guestbook, which were undone in I'd say about 30 seconds. I found out where the attack was organized from and nailed them to the wall too and put pressure on them from local and federal authories as well as pressure from their upstream(where they get their service from).
The IP address of all posters is logged, I can easily track where it came from and cross-referencing security logs will tell exactly WHO is responsible for the connection it game from. Or you can delete the account. Or, leave it alone, let a little drama liven things up a bit.
There are many tactics to demoralizing or dehumanizing a person. Breaking someone down bit by bit can be a rather enjoyable thing to do, not only breaking down their body, but their mind, spirit and sould as well. There is no one single way to do it, and some are more entertaining than others.
Ignore it, don't even acknowledge its presence. Even if posting in the same thread after it, make sure the response is properly addressed to someone else so there is no confusing what you're refering to(another post). The above mentioned usenet troll feeds and thrives off attention, and when that attention dies, so does their interests. Take away their tool and you retain control.
But alas, I'm not here to give advise on how to effectively break down someone or even better, how to do it rapidly. I have connections that take care of that for me. Unfortunately, they are too violent and aggressive to be wrestlers, but they do respond well to those recognized to be the position of authority.
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Post by Indylover on Jul 7, 2004 11:28:05 GMT -5
I'm sorry that the truth offends him. Maybe if he told more or it, it wouldn't be so foreign to him. But the fact of the matter is that Rob Wilds under the guise of running UWA has duped, cheated and used numerous people. And then has gall to spew that he hasn't. That he is a "on the level" promoter. When he is just as backstabbing and manipulative as the ones he demonizes.
And before you go off on not having done my research, I know this first hand. And have also spoken to those in the wake of UWA. So you my friend might be the one that needs the history lesson. Instead of talking to just Rob and his little world of followers maybe you should ask around about him in other camps and see what he is really thought of. Even ask the guys who will work for him but totally talk crap(truth) about him to other promotions.
See, Rob's main problem with my posts is that he thought he knew who this was. And now he is concerned that there are more then just the few he knew of out there that think he is a joke. Or better yet a lying snake. Rob's fatal mistake was screwing too many people with too much knowlege about him and his "business practices". And now it's pay back.
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Post by studio42 on Jul 7, 2004 12:07:53 GMT -5
If you're admitting to hacking UWA's stuff, well, then I can see that you definately have no issue with compromised ethics. Taking that one step forward, since you went out to deliberately vandalize someone else's property, that is a tresspass issue as well as violation of privacy and property rights, which believe it or not can be prosecuted in both civil and courts of law, as either a misdemeanor or a felony depending on the actual damage done.
Also, someone who would go about and damage someone else's property(ie: hacking) shows they have no respect for not only the person or people that are the victims(which was your point), but as well no respect for law, common decency, ethics as well as themselves(ie: you don't even respect yourself).
So, now onto your "facts". I don't have time to do the research, but now anything you say, you've managed to contradict and discredit yourself by admitting to hacking a web site. If you're willing to commit criminal acts to help "make your point", then why stop there? Why not lie as well? Heck, let's not even twist the truth a little here and there, just make up pure fiction, even better. Remember, that is now libel because you're doing it in print.
So, you've managed to blow all credibility and possible respect for yourself in one simple statement.
They say revenge is a dish served cold. Why not take that concept to heart. Why bother to hack a web site? I mean, if it's an issue of karma, what comes around goes around. And if so, you've definately got yours coming too so you better watch out because it will hit you like a 16-pound sledge hammer. So, what you should do is take what you know or at least think you know, sit back and watch it all fall apart.
Most people don't take being fired or removed from something gently. Most can not see why their behavior is a problem, or actions or whatever else may have lead to their dismissal. Many people find it easier to carry grudges than simply move on. I carry two grudges right now: A guy in third grade was constantly getting me in trouble in school and I flat out couldn't take myself getting in trouble for telling him to shut up and stop talking to me during class. He was just one of those types that had a tendency to be a troublemaker. It reached a head when he pushed me into a muddy mess(I an NOT kidding: around a softball diamond, after it had rained, it was so soft and sloppy you sank up to your knee or md-thigh) and I nearly got suspended for it and that was the last straw. His constant unwanted phone calls after the fact did not help either, even years later. The other is a high school music teacher, whose actions LOST me a scholarship because I was the next in line on his "victim" list, having already done the same to two other students who were similarly of strong mind and talent. One quit band, the other left for another school. I dropped jazz band and stopped performing in concert band. Deliberate acts by both. One maybe stupid and part of kids being kids, the other a deliberate act with obvious intent in mind. Idiot instructor called a few years ago, begging for forgiveness, which he will never get. I don't feel sorry for him. In fact, feeling sorry, guilt and remorse are generally emotions I have crushed. Feeling sorry for someone has it's place from time to time, but guild, remorse and regret are flat out gone.
Now, no disrespect to Rob, and I've only known him a short time, so take what I say with a grain of salt. If in fact Rob's practices are not on the up and up, then as it should be, in time, it will come back around. Right now I just don't see it. As with any new relationships, things will pop up later on both good and bad. I take things one day at a time right now. When you work 100+ hours a week and are constantly pulled in multiple directions and are flat out prevented from making any long term plans(say, 2 days in advance these days), it's difficult.
So, if people have something to say, I'm hiding out in plain site. I provide my link, my cell phone is on there. Feel free to ring me up. I will be calm and rational provided the other end is as well. And if some other wrestling organization wants to put their money where their mouth is, they can hire my audio services as well. My company isn't exclusive as I do have other audio jobs as well(see my site calendar) and an available date means I can be hired.
So, you want me to take advise from a criminal? I don't think so. Of course, why a 2-minute fix wasn't dealt with to correct the site hacking, well, I can not answer that as it is not my web server or property. I always have 2 or more copies of my site off-line at all times and if need be can blow out something damaged and replace it quickly. Then again, I do all my site maintenance as well.
A criminal dictacting right and wrong, what the truth is. Next thing you'll tell me is that all politicians are honest.
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Post by Indylover on Jul 7, 2004 13:50:23 GMT -5
Well first off, I never admitted to or even did hack the UWA site. But I applaud whoever did. To be totally honest I'm not computer savy enough to do it.
Now fired or let go from UWA. Nope again. Only "worked" for UWA once and was never paid for it. And left because I found out first hand what type of person Rob was and didn't want anything to do with him. But I continued to see him using and harming the rest of the people around him some of which I cared about.
You see Studio, just because you got shuck and jived like the rest of us doesn't make you any better then us. All I was doing was making an observation based on personal encounter and testimony by others who have willingly left. Oddly enough if the people still surrounding him ever knew what he himself says about them behind their backs I doubt they'd be so supportive.
And by the way it's only lible if you don't have proof. I have proof. Ask him to see the UWA business license. A document that is to be produced to the public upon request. It's public knowledge that he doesn't even legally own this company. But I doubt he tells anyone new that. I'll bet his rotating partners don't even know that. I've seen the license. I have proof of everything I say. And that's Rob's problem not yours. He knows that there is proof out there to everything I and other people have been saying about him.
But none the less, you go right ahead supporting him financially and with you work and effort. And when he burns you too, and he will, we will still let you be part of the club.
But until then have a great time.
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Post by Rob Wilds on Jul 7, 2004 14:05:41 GMT -5
ok Indylover, Na na na na , hey hey hey, goooodbye.... Your booted from the board. I only employ wrestlers who have the guts to bring a problem to my face. Your booted. D.J Chris, I would be more than happy to show you the UWA business licence with my name and Chris Ward (The owners of UWA if you would like to see it.)
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Post by studio42 on Jul 7, 2004 14:24:17 GMT -5
Rob, you don't need to show me anything. You've already earned my trust and that's more important that a business license in my point of view.
I got your back. I know you got mine. I judge a person by their character. You've being nothing be open, honest and straight-forward with me. There is a good working relationship between us. Otherwise, why would I take the efforts that I have to move additional projects forward?
Don't worry about me. I'm definately down with the UWA. I established links on my web site, I tell all my friends about the event I did and how much fun I had doing that one. So, don't you worry, Studio42 and Giang Tien Audio definately have you taken care of on those aspects of things.
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Post by biff68 on Jul 18, 2004 0:05:47 GMT -5
you know what . the show with big sexy kevin nash or "1 half of the outsiders" was great me and my family had a great time. I was the one that took the last phoho with kevin in the ring. i had the scott hall/kevin nash shirt on. if you need any help with promoting events just let me know. keep up the great work. Biff
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Post by Rob Wilds on Jul 18, 2004 2:06:02 GMT -5
Biff,
We will gladly take all the help we can get.
Rob
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Post by Rob Wilds on Jul 26, 2004 23:33:15 GMT -5
Does anyone have any new ideas how to improve the website? Make it better than it already is? Im sore Noah can do anything we all think of.
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Post by CaptainAmerica on Jul 29, 2004 3:12:41 GMT -5
i look at this board and notice people saying things i do not like, Rob Wilds is not my friend he is my Brother, since i moved here he is the only person constantly talking to me, so Indy Shut your Mouth,from what you say alot of people may want to hurt Rob in Different ways but if i have anything to do with it, it wont happen, You do your thing, and if you wanna let some Anger out i got an idea lets do it my way Paint Ball, ill mow your face off, and to me you seem like a little whinning girl so for you ill buy some pink paint!
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Post by studio42 on Jul 29, 2004 14:49:35 GMT -5
I've got nothing but good things to say about Rob. Straight shooter, up front, honest, ethical. Definately the kind of person I'm glad to be doing business with.
Flames should move onto sepparate threads so those who want to read the ranting and raving can read it and the rest can skip it.
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Post by Professor Pimpstatus on Jul 29, 2004 19:56:53 GMT -5
you all don't understand... that Rob guy.... he kicked my dog!
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Post by Rob Wilds on Jul 29, 2004 23:40:10 GMT -5
Shes lying to you bastard guy....Im going to come to your house and your going to jail .. (Inside Joke everyone) ...
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Post by CaptainAmerica on Jul 31, 2004 2:43:01 GMT -5
dont you tell me, no no dont you tell me to F*!$, you basterd guy you, you, you F*!$ you you, you kick my dog you f*!$ guy and now it needs operation and i sue you you basterd
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Post by studio42 on Jul 31, 2004 23:09:30 GMT -5
It's FARGIN' WAR!!!
(Anyone see Johnny Dangerously?)
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